Comments on: Bonobo Handshake https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake Dr. Susan Block's Journal Wed, 16 Jun 2021 01:04:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Nona Mills https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-12007 Wed, 22 Dec 2010 18:02:22 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-12007 There have been traditional human populations that were pretty sexually free with one another– but they had to be small, isolated populations. Once such a population becomes large enough to sustain an epidemic, frequent change of sexual partners becomes a very effective way to amplify the virulence of whatever diseases are circulating. (See Paul Ewald, _The Evolution of Infectious Disease_ , for the reasons why this is the likely outcome (for critters not equipped with modern precautionary techniques ).) So the bonobos have ways that suit their particular niche in the world; and we have rather less attractive traits that suited the way our ancestors were living. One excuse for our history, for example, is: “We were all drunk at the time.” (You couldn’t live in a good-sized ancient European city without mixing enough alcohol with your water to keep it from doing you in. The Chinese, having tea, made a little more sense now & then.) But mainly, large, greedy, violent organizations had an advantage over groups that wanted to live fun, sensible lives. (In the contemporary situation, where collective greed and violence can readily do in the lot of us, we can recognize that as a dead-end strategy… but God knows if we’ll manage to give it up!) Anyway, one could almost suffer from bonobo envy… but they don’t have as much fun with our second-favorite organ.

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By: bromeo https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6948 Mon, 02 Aug 2010 07:20:54 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6948 You are sooooooooo right, Vanessa is a hottie. Wonderful topic, love how important the bonobos are to you.

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By: PolyBi https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6947 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:12:07 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6947 Outside of the fact that we may learn from our Bonobo relatives, kudos to Dr. Block for her tireless championing of these creatures. I say this not from being a friend and follower for the last decade, but for the fact that she done more than most to make us aware of these wonderful primates.

Thanks Doc Block!

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By: Besty https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6946 Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:45:16 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6946 Very incredible show…I was very glad of the things discussed during the show. It wasn’t only focused on their sex lives, the bonobos, but also on the hardships that the monkeys go though where they come from…

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By: Larry, dfh https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6945 Sun, 25 Jul 2010 05:15:38 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6945 Just finished the book “Heart of Dryness” by James Worthington. It dealt with Kalahari Bushmen; what was interesting was that ‘war’ as such was never mentioned, except in the last chapter, where Worthington stated that war was unknown to the Bushmen. These people have lived in near total isolation for maybe 100,000 years. If the Bonoboes are considered a species separate from Chimpanzees, maybe the Bushmen should be considered as separate from Homo sapien sapiens.
I’ve been informed of the Bonoboes since the early ’90s. It’s been a great reservoir of personal strength to me that ‘make love, not war’ is, in fact the correct outlook. It’s a sad sad reflection of the human species that it takes a lesser (sic) relative to prove that.

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By: Michael Donnelly https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6944 Sat, 17 Jul 2010 03:11:46 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6944 I loved this piece. Knowledge of Bonobo culture is spreading, even as the New Yorker and others suppress that knowledge and misinform. Pretty much all my good friends are up on it, despite all that. Your work spreading the word has had a great influence. We need to emulate our bonobo relatives more and fight for their habitat.

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By: Sara Minot https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6943 Thu, 15 Jul 2010 02:17:44 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6943 Beautiful article, Dr. Block. Thank you for your tireless–and entertaining–advocacy of the bonobos for so many years.

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By: Forrest Curo https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6942 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 05:16:55 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6942 There have been traditional human populations that were pretty sexually free with one another– but they had to be small, isolated populations.

Once such a population becomes large enough to sustain an epidemic, frequent change of sexual partners becomes a very effective way to amplify the virulence of whatever diseases are circulating. (See Paul Ewald, _The Evolution of Infectious Disease_ , for the reasons why this is the likely outcome (for critters not equipped with modern precautionary techniques ).)

So the bonobos have ways that suit their particular niche in the world; and we have rather less attractive traits that suited the way our ancestors were living. One excuse for our history, for example, is: “We were all drunk at the time.” (You couldn’t live in a good-sized ancient European city without mixing enough alcohol with your water to keep it from doing you in. The Chinese, having tea, made a little more sense now & then.) But mainly, large, greedy, violent organizations had an advantage over groups that wanted to live fun, sensible lives. (In the contemporary situation, where collective greed and violence can readily do in the lot of us, we can recognize that as a dead-end strategy… but God knows if we’ll manage to give it up!)

Anyway, one could almost suffer from bonobo envy… but they don’t have as much fun with our second-favorite organ.

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By: Nori https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6941 Tue, 13 Jul 2010 02:01:56 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6941 The show was great. Intellectually compelling, stimulating, and it gave me the opportunity to more closely develop a better sense of human nature and violence. We have a choice unlike most other animals, a conscious choice to be more like Bonobos or Baboons. I saw an article today where some “Dumb chimp” commented on the Psychology Today article that really got me going. My recommendation to you all is to not only talk about Bonobos to co-workers and friends, but to non-violently attack (via words) the forces in the media that would support researchers tailoring their findings to reflect a less sexual bonobo. Is that what we want in our scientific community? Censored data? Sorry but that really pisses me off to see something founded on the ideals of unbiased analysis twisted and corrupted. I hope it outrages you too. Read the article and comments on Psychologytoday.com

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By: Rickster G https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6940 Tue, 13 Jul 2010 01:01:29 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6940 i just listened to your interview with Vanessa Woods, and you know, you guys are GREAT to listen to and great interviewers, i keep forgetting. I need to check out your tv/radio stuff more.

The discussion of the Bonobos (and in my uneducated opinion, but convincing observations) about animals in general having “higher” feelings than is commonly believed, and in fact my personal “opinion” is that ALL living creatures have at least some level of what we call emotions. The witnessing of the Bonobos begging for their life brought me to tears, just as Max (I think it was he who) said. I also simply loved listening to you and your “glass” protected interaction with the Bonobos.

I could tell you many examples, but one was a frog that I actually got a picture of… Maybe it was just curiosity but I talked, slow and calmly and sat without moving (Ironically something my dad taught me) for around 15-20 minutes and he slowly got closer, clearly interested for some reason. In a film type 35mm SLR (single lens reflex) the mirror is very loud and the frog immediately went under the water as soon as I pushed the shutter. Its the mirror in the camera that lifts out of the way so the light can hit the film that makes the noise.

I had an interesting encounter with a rather large black snake a few weeks ago and a very large (4-5ft) timber rattler not long after I moved here, in my front yard. I approached both of them very slowly and at a safe and non-threatening distance and talked calmly the entire time. Both were interesting, and interested or maybe curious or maybe only assessing the situation though the rattle snake took me a few minutes to get over the initial fear that came naturally.

…and just now I’m listening to your conversation with the caller “spencer” and his being in a wheel chair as a reason for not having relationships with women, and Max’s example of Frank Moore was inspirational.

Great show!

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By: Don Pascal https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6939 Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:23:33 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6939 Once again, you show true compassion for these amazing creatures. We can definitely learn from them in many ways.

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By: Arturos https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6938 Mon, 12 Jul 2010 23:19:38 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6938 humans are more closely related…socially, culturally, militarily, sexually, and emotionally/psycologically to….baboons, hah, not an ape at all, but just as linear, shallow, aggressive, greedy, and self-destructive…..think upon it.

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By: drsuzy https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6937 Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:56:25 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6937 In reply to gehmans.

Yes Gehmans, Frans de Waal’s Our Inner Ape: A Leading Primatologist Explains Why We Are Who We Are is an excellent book, but its not ALL about bonobos. In fact, it doesn’t even include the word “bonobos” in the title. Thus I didn’t reference it when talking about Bonobo Handshake being the only book focused on bonobos published by a major house, besides Bonobo: The Forgotten Ape.

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By: gehmans https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6936 Mon, 12 Jul 2010 22:50:33 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6936 I wish you would have mentioned Frans de Waal’s other great book, Our Inner Ape, exploring the triad of us, chimps, and bonobos.

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By: Susan Elizabeth Siens https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6935 Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:51:06 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6935 “. . . bonobo orphans appear to be more fragile and sometimes, despite the best of care, simply fail to rally. Perhaps this is a painful corollary to being peaceful, sexual, empathetic and sensitive: difficulty coping with the barbarity of war and the cold-blooded murder of loved ones.”

I think this has a lot to say about the human species, who survives and who doesn’t. Human civilization has never rewarded the sensitive and the empathetic, but it’s got lots of supposed goodies for the cruel and barbaric. I look at civilization and wonder why all humans aren’t alcoholic, depressed, insane, . . .

Susan Elizabeth Siens
Unity, Maine

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By: James W. Prescott, Ph.D. https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6934 Mon, 12 Jul 2010 21:07:46 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6934 Many thanks for your support in spreading the Bonobo word which you have excelled at. Appreciate your new BLOG, as it provides additional information on Vanessa Woods and her new book Bonobo Handshake which I am looking forward to reading. Vanessa is a striking woman. Good to have her on our side.

Since the BONOBO is threatened with Extinction we have little time to convey the importance of this Primate species.

Susan, Your Peace Through Pleasure slogan needs Global distribution.

Toward The Future and Peace through Pleasure

Again, many thanks

Jim

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By: John V. Walsh, MD https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6933 Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:57:18 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6933 Great piece–as usual. Keep up the great work.

John V. Walsh, MD
Professor of Physiology
University of Massachusetts Medical School

p.s. And I plan to buy the book.

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By: Leah T https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6932 Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:15:56 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6932 When the New Yorker attacks the bonobos, you know humanity has a sex problem.

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By: Jenny J https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6931 Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:04:31 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6931 What is with all these warmongering journalists making monkeys of a gullible bloodthirsty public?

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By: George M https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6930 Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:53:37 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6930 I don’t know about these apes, but Vanessa Woods is a total babe.

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By: Casey Periwinkle https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6929 Sun, 11 Jul 2010 21:45:58 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6929 shari babeeee u never came over to my place to give me that blowjob you promised a few blogs ago. cum on honey i got plenty bananas for u

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By: shari Baby https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6928 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:48:39 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6928 I had a great time at the taping of your show last Sat night when you had Vanessa on the phone. It was fascinating watching her interaction with the cuddly & playful bonobos on your tv monitors. What’s really beautiful is the love they share between one another. Wouldn’t this world be less stressful if we did nice things for each other? And, don’t you feel like you know someone better once you become intimate? And, then once you’re intimate it’s so easy to care for people in a meaningful way. The joy on a man’s face, the bliss exuded once treated to deliciously oral pleasures is one of contentment, camaraderie, and genuine openness to reach out to others once the edge is removed and replaced by ecstasy.

Love your work and that you’re so dedicated to spreading pleasure of all kinds. Besos.

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By: shari Baby https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6927 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:46:47 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6927 Casey…omg…you’re too funny

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By: Chris https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6926 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 08:48:58 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6926 So everybody is crying…such big babies, me too, the tears were just rolling down my cheeks. That hand clapping when in the gun sight of a hunter just got to me. They are such delicate creatures. Thanks for a great show and viva Vanessa, I’d like her for a mommy and thanks for making me cry, I haven’t done soo since Vietnam.

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By: Charles https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6925 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 04:44:38 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6925 OK,OK, you’ve turned me into a Bonobo, I’m gonna buy the book. Heard the interview with Ms Woods, she was great, there were times I was crying and I’m as big as a gorilla, I’m not moved easily but these creatures are truly amazing. I will lend my help to protect these guys. Is it possible to go visit them in the Congo? Perhaps we could organize a group trip? Is that OK you think?

Anyway then I noticed the pictures from the show, you all look like human Bonobos. Those are some mighty hot creatures you got running around the studio. I will have to join you one night.

You can call me anytime and let’s talk about this. My number is 213.364.xxxx.

Best Regards Doc…
Charles

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By: Casey Periwinkle https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6924 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 04:30:49 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6924 wow those are some sexual critters. if the females didn’t have so much hair and the big ears, um… well… maybe not. but they are cool. yeaa bonobos rock!

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By: CeeBee https://drsusanblock.com/bonobo-handshake#comment-6923 Sat, 10 Jul 2010 04:00:48 +0000 http://dev.radiosuzy1.com/?p=13683#comment-6923 I have tears in my eyes. I knew from your previous writings and shows that bonobos have a lot of sex and no war, which is awesome enough, but hearing about how they care for each other and are so close to human in so many ways. It’s just mind-boggling. They are so close and yet so far away. I am going to adopt a bonobo too, Dr. Suzy, just gotta set up a paypal account, but I will adopt a bonobo this week for sure. Thank you for opening my eyes, even if it made the tears spill out of them.

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